Bermovik so when you say IOU you mean that 15.4 iou (ios) for the linux systems? Doyou run gns3 in linux environment? Iristheangel i wish they would tell us what the 15. For switches is needed for and the 15.3 i have 15.1 on my 1841 and an IOS image for GNs3?
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I just bought 4 3560s with emi and a 3750 for the GNS3 break out switch setup i liked that the best seemed most economical? The routers will use 15.3T and the switches will use 15.0SE for the CCIE RS lab. As long as your switches have 32MB of flash you can run IOS 15SE.
The 15.1 will be good enough for most of the stuff on the blue print. For GNS3, use the 7200 routers to run IOS 15. Additionally, CSR 1000V 3.11S runs the equivalent of IOS 15.4S.
The major difference between 12 and 15 on the switch side is VTP3, so you should be fine with learning most of the technologies on 12 code. I am also thinking about the server route now - seems the best option by far actually. I just need to get some more RAM for my server. It has 16GB presently, and I can upp this to 32.
Funnily enough I could just sell my routers and probably have enough cash to cover. Perhaps I could sell it as some kind of cheapo CCNP lab or something. I think with my Server running with 32GB RAM I can probably run like 10 of those quite comfortably.
Not sure if my other i7 machine can take 32GB on the motherboard otherwise I would put that to 32 as well and then I'd have more than enough to run 20 routers. Next experiment is to try running a boatload of CSR's with 16 and some over provisioned SSD for RAM. Might hang onto my 1841's though (I've got 3 of them) Cisco VIRL is now CML I believe. OK so £100 will upgrade my server to 32GB RAM, and that maxxes out at 32. PC also maxxes at 32.
So there's 64 between them. How much for a bunch of routers then. Why not invest into 360 bundle? They run exact code you will stumble upon in the lab and their workbooks are very good with less mistakes than INE. If you don't wish to spend more money on their rack rentals you can replicate their setup in IOU yourself, just remember to pull the configs when doing their labs To be absolutely honest I am loathed to spend another penny.
Thinking about it the CSR has been around for long enough, and I've spent £1500 on a physical lab. I really don't know what to do with it. I basically have 9 routers and a terminal server I probably don't need anymore, and I could maybe sell these for a very handy sum.
The terminal server, despite being a 2511, is still worth £180 on eBay alone. This could pay for a lot of memory! Oh, and my 1841's appear to be selling for £125 each.
So between those 4 devices that's £500. I've got: - 3 x 1841 w/ 256MB and VPN Modules 2 x 2650XM w/ 32MB 1 x 2621XM w/ 32MB 2 x 2620XM w/ 32MB 1 x 3640 w/ 24MB That's my routers anyway. Switch wise I've got 2 x WS-C3750-24TS w/ 128MB 2 x WS-C3550-24 w/ 64MB So switch wise I'm happy to run 15.0 on the 3750 (If I can, of course) and just run 12.2 on the 3550's. Now, I wonder if I can sell all 9 of my routers - but man I don't have boxes or anything, moving this stuff is going to be a pain.
It's either I do a lot of wheeling and dealing, or just and hybrid the lot (my preferred method) Hybrid wise I mean using my two machines - that's probably 12 CSR's I can run - and then I've got my 9 other routers which brings me to 21. Obviously I can't run v15 on everything, but I am not sure that even matters. What I really want/need to know is what the actual configuration section of the v5 lab is going to look like - I know INE are capping it at 20 routers, but I'm not so sure it'll be.that. many in a full actual lab - it's too many, and a pain in the backside to emulate it all.
EDIT: Haha, my switches (3750's) wont run 15 either. I've got plenty of options anyhow - maybe I could IOU it but the amount of bugs puts me off. I think I will hang onto my 1841's and all switches. So that leaves 2 x 2650XM w/ 32MB 1 x 2621XM w/ 32MB 2 x 2620XM w/ 32MB 1 x 3640 w/ 24MB If any of this is of any use to you then please let me know.
I've got a fair amount of serial cables as well, also 3 x WIC-2T's 1 x WIC-1T I am based in South Wales and I've got no means of boxing any of this stuff up but if you are in the local vicinity I am happy to arrange half way meet up. I would be looking for about £120 for that? The WIC cards are about £50 on ebay, so I think that's a fair deal for 6 routers?
Let me know what you think. I've also had this great idea to have full rack but then I've found myself using GNS3 more often as it's just so much more convenient, there's no noise and power could be used elsewhere.
When IOU came out it was a game changer and I switched over completely, having gone through INE and lack of v5 workbooks I've decided to give 360 a shot and never looked back. Their rack rentals (included in price with workbooks) are awesome, very similar to real exam experience so it's worth it just to familiarise yourself with it. If I were you I'd sell the kit and spend money on books or memory to run IOU / CSR.
Already got more than enough to run IOU/GSR, adding another 16GB RAM to my server to expand that to 32GB. Between that and my desktop, I've got 48GB RAM and enough room to run all the instances that they are requesting. I've bought the vol1 workbook from INE so I'll get the v5 updates when they are released, so my combo will be IOU/CSR/Physical/GNS where possible. I'm more than covered.
I'll keep the older routers just because I've got no way to ship them and they're practically worth nothing now. I'll be splitting my power on the rack so that I only power up the 3 main routers and 4 switches for labbing in and I can supplement these with CSR instances. I can always power up the second half seperately (I have USB control over the power sockets) if/should I need them for whatever reason. There will be some 15.x specific topics, but probably only 5-10% maximum of the switching scope.
If you already have switches running 12.2(55), and they can't run 15.x, then I would just run the 12.2 train. You can compare the images side by side at and see the differences. The feature navigator isn't always 100% correct but it can give you a general idea what is and isn't supported.
Most of it is routing features that you wouldn't need to run on the switches anyways. /FONT/COLOR Thanks for the correction. My translation to that is still about 80% covered with 12.2 code. Yes, I'm using Cisco 360 v5 workbooks, they are much better than v4 stuff as those had some typos and mistakes. Questions are very well written and clear, having spoken to people who have gone through Cisco 360 and attempted the lab it's very similar. So all in all you know what to expect yet not cheating in any shape or form. I couldn't recommend it highly enough for $360 you get (I know I'm repeating myself from another reply in the forum): 100 hours of rack time, very nice web GUI similar to lab and instant booking i.e start lab now.
10 CFG Workbooks with answer key 10 TS Workbooks with answer key 1 Assesment lab CFG labs are in 6 hours slots, you can add 2 hours on top of that. TS labs are in 2 hours slots and you can add 1 hour or 2 (can't remember off top of my head). Also further labs will be added in near future. I'm mixing this with own 'IOU rack' just getting copies of start up configs so I can go through the labs again without spending any rack time hours. Yes, I'm using Cisco 360 v5 workbooks, they are much better than v4 stuff as those had some typos and mistakes. Questions are very well written and clear, having spoken to people who have gone through Cisco 360 and attempted the lab it's very similar.
So all in all you know what to expect yet not cheating in any shape or form. I couldn't recommend it highly enough for $360 you get (I know I'm repeating myself from another reply in the forum): 100 hours of rack time, very nice web GUI similar to lab and instant booking i.e start lab now.
10 CFG Workbooks with answer key 10 TS Workbooks with answer key 1 Assesment lab CFG labs are in 6 hours slots, you can add 2 hours on top of that. TS labs are in 2 hours slots and you can add 1 hour or 2 (can't remember off top of my head). Also further labs will be added in near future. I'm mixing this with own 'IOU rack' just getting copies of start up configs so I can go through the labs again without spending any rack time hours Does this include base configs you can load up and pdf workbooks?